Talk: House Roxton

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Not-so-subtle reference

The title of their patriarch would be "Lord of the Ring". --Potsk (talk) 08:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

We already have a Sauron in the series (Sauron Salt-Tongue), GRRM could give us "Sauron Roxton, Lord of the Ring" if he revisits this House in the future (though it would be better if it was "Lord of the Rings"). --Thomaerys Velaryon (talk) 09:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
I think at this point we can not even be sure they are a lordly house. Jon Roxton, head of the house during the Dance of Dragons, is called lord only once (when he resides in Lord Footly's chambers after First Tumbleton) and otherwise is referred to as Ser Jon all he time. So I think it is rather likely the head of the house is called 'the Knight of the Ring'. The Wondering Wolf (talk) 11:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Seems strange for such an ancient house (with a Valyrian steel sword no less) to be mere landed knights. --Potsk (talk) 13:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Maybe, but that is what the sources say. A Valyrian steel sword does not tell you anything about the status of its owner (even the Mormonts got one) and the Templetons and Santagars are noteworthy knightly houses just the same. The Wondering Wolf (talk) 14:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Anyway it's not so unusual for lord-knights to be called by both titles. Myles Smallwood is introduced as "Ser Myles Smallwood, Lord of Acorn Hall". --Potsk (talk) 13:56, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
For what it's worth, the Roxtons are stated to be a lordly house in the context of Ser Lorence Roxton. I would assume this is still the case and that Jon Roxton is a lord. --LordSeaSnake (talk) 15:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Jon is not introduced as lord and neither is he called so but once, after he has taken a lord-like position. He may have been a lord after all, but in my opinion the text does not point into that direction so far. The Roxtons being called a lordly house is a bit ambigous in my opinion, there are examples when the word is used as "noble" or refers to a knight, as well. When it says that Ser Lorence was the only Kingsguard from a lordly house it does not mean the others were from knightly houses, but he was the only one of noble birth. The Wondering Wolf (talk) 16:43, 9 February 2021 (UTC)