Talk: Mance Rayder

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Mance is a descendant of Bael the Bard


  • Mance is very, very fond of music, as was Bael.
  • He is a King Beyond the wall.
  • He uses the name 'Abel' when going to the Bolton wedding. Abel is an anagram of Bael.
  • He snuck into a feast at Winterfell as a bard like Bael did.

--19:46, 2 May 2012 Frankthecat

True, nice attention to details but its not an actual Evidence that mance is his descendant. --Mor 20:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

His parents were killed when he was still very young. This was a long time ago so there may not be anyone alive who knew them and their ancestry. Scafloc 09:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)