Talk: Skahaz mo Kandaq
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I attempted to flesh out the article, explaining the rather complex role of Skahaz in the Meereenese storyline. If I have omitted significant passages concerning him, please point it out. --Dimadick 15:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's a bit long, for a minor character. How about trimming it down? Erick 22:35, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
- He is not a minor character. He pretty much dominates the Meereen-narrative in "Dance". --Dimadick 06:52, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
- He is not a POV character. This is an encyclopedia, not a library. All we need is a summary of who he is, not a history.Erick 13:33, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- Who are "we"? Your profile mentions few actual edits. Why do only POV characters deserve articles? --Dimadick 16:22, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- "We" are the people who read the articles. I didn't say Skahaz didn't deserve an article, but it's too long. Skahaz is in one book, yet his page is as long as Daenerys Targaryen's. I don't have many edits, it's true, but that is because I just signed up last week. Erick 18:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- Have you checked the forums? Discussions often center on analyzing the scenes and there are often requests for descriptions and quotes. I am not certain why the wiki should not be used as a reference resource. --Dimadick 20:42, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- That's fine. I was just going by Wikipedia guidelines. Carry on. Erick 15:03, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
- It's not fine. Erick, you were right. We should be using Wikipedia's guidelines. And Dimadick, as for "Discussions often center on analyzing the scenes and there are often requests for descriptions and quotes.", well, we have the actual books for that. A character's page should describe who a character is and an overview of what a character has gone through in the books. Not every line said by, to, or about the character. The articles you're writing are more than excessive, and I don't see how you can't realize this. At the risk of sounding patronizing, your passion is appreciated, but it could be put to much better use. KamiShikkaku 07:25, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- And I continue to disagree. Are you actually aware of what are Wikipedia's guidelines on Writing about fiction? The articles should avoid focusing on information on the fiction itself and use "the real world as their primary frame of reference". That is why most Wikipedia articles on books, and films have small plot summaries (which certain editors continue to shorten or fully discard) and focus on information on the writer's intent, and reviews by professional critics. The guidelines specifically mention: "write from a real-world perspective". Do you care to change the articles to follow this guideline.
- Also the guidelines on notability require that only major characters with real-world impact qualify for articles. Secondary characters receive sections on a list of "characters by series", and minor characters are simply deleted. If we actually followed these guidelines we would have to merge or delete most of the already extant articles.
- "Who a character is" is already covered in the introduction of an article. Would you want to limit the articles to the introduction? I can't realize how the articles are excessive, because this is supposed to be a Wiki entirely focusing on a single set of works, and I don't see how my writing is off-topic. --Dimadick 09:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- No, I don't think we should limit a character page to the introduction. I didn't just say a page should "who a character is", if you read my post I actually said it "should describe who a character is and an overview of what a character has gone through in the books".
- Anyway Dimadick, you now have Elio Garcia (username Ran), the site founder, telling you directly to "get with the program or go and found your own wiki". KamiShikkaku 09:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your support of my argument. I felt like I couldn't win with this one. I needed assistance, and you gave it. Sorry it took so long, but I lost my info, and had to create a new profile. Erick Spencer Robinson